if some of these swing states aren't going to -- >> well, dana, they sent paul ryan to the major league state of ohio and he was talking about medicare while come paining. >> i want to be very care about this, mitt romney and i will never waiver in our commitment to our seniors. our plans actually save these programs, they make no changes for people in or near retirement, they strengthen medicare and social security for a generation. >> i'm curious, a new quinnipiac poll shows that toward the end of august, more seniors in florida favored mitt romney on medicare. now that has flipped, more seniors now support president obama with medicare. what do you make of the numbers, did mitt romney make too much baggage on this critical issue when he selected paul ryan? >> part of that is more exposure being brought to what's going on here? there's so many ryan plans and originally he did get -- it sort of evolved until he gets closer and closer as he gets more and more defensive here, he is in part ryan what's going on in florida. overall, the third rail doesn't exist anymore. what happened is th